• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    4 hours ago

    My position is that you should be seen to be entirely free to make your own choices, even if the choice you make is to rape me.

    I literally cannot conjure up a better example for what kinds of mistakes you can internalize by doing a clean-room design of anarchism.

    I end up discovering that their reasoning has been tainted by their own authoritarian habits, presumptions or even ambitions.

    That’s magical thinking. Yeah there’s no such thing as a pure anarchist text and we are all shaped by the oppressions we are subject to, but the reasonable response is not to retreat into your own head, since you are certainly just as “tainted” as anyone else. Instead, the reasonable response is to read all texts critically, i.e. assume a perfect text does not exist.

    And frankly, I don’t even want to read solely anarchist books. There are lots of people who make excellent contributions to various fields of endeavor who are not necessarily anarchists. E.g., I loved Omar El-Akkad’s book One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This on the Gaza genocide, and I recommend every anarchist read it even though El-Akkad is not an anarchist to the best of my knowledge. It’s up to us to approach literature with a critical assessment.

    • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      14 minutes ago

      I literally cannot conjure up a better example for what kinds of mistakes you can internalize by doing a clean-room design of anarchism.

      So in your estimation the correct position is… what? That there should be some mechanism by which people would be prohibited from making destructive choices? In anarchism?

      You do understand that those are the only two options, right? Either you’re free to choose or you’re not, and if you’re not, it can only be because some third party has denied you that freedom. Since anarchism precludes the existence of any third party that would be empowered to nominally rightfully deny someone else any right, my statement, superficially controversial though it might appear, is really simple and straightforward and obviously true.

      It’s just that it cuts to the heart of one of the most common mistakes self-proclaimed anarchists make - refusing to relinquish (or generally even examine) their bland presumption that other people’s decisions are rightly subject to their approval.

      Which presumption is the basis for the institutionalization of authority, when those people learn that it’s not practical (or often even possible) for them to effectively prohibit choices of which they disapprove on their own, so instead of considering the possibility that that’s a nominal right that they should not in fact possess, they instead seek some method by which additional force might be applied.

      Or is it just that you were confused by my statement? Did you think I was advocating a right to rape? If so, I suggest rereading it more carefully and thinking about it, because I very much was not.