cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63691775
Posted this in Fediverse Memes but got deleted for some reason, can’t imagine why.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63691775
Posted this in Fediverse Memes but got deleted for some reason, can’t imagine why.
Israel was founded 75 years ago as an explicitly settler-colonialist ethnostate project on the existing land of Palestine. This was wrong and unacceptable then and it continues to be so. The state of Israel should not exist. Death to Israel.
Criticism is something where the other side can say “you’re right, I’ll stop that and do better”.
“Israel shouldn’t exist” isn’t criticism, the Israelis currently living there can’t just stop existing.
Why are you Kraut fuckers always so intent on conflating a population with a nation-state? Literal blood-and-soil nationalism. Dismantling Israel doesn’t necessarily have to mean the cessation of existence for all its current citizens, and it’s intellectually dishonest not to acknowledge that fact in this conversation.
Being charitable, I wonder if there is a language barrier thing happening here. I’m by no means fluent in German, but as far as I can tell, words like “death” and “dead” are far more versatile and used metaphorically far more often in English than in German.
I’m german, there is no language barrier. The cultural barrier is that my countrypeople can’t separate between a nation and it’s citizens.
The fact that they can’t think of another way to get rid of settlers, when they launched a genocidal settlement campaign not even 100 years ago across poland and had to be “resettled” west of the Oder after they lost, speaks to how much they actually learned from their past.
I think they just like to always assume the worst in order to justify their own overly broad definition of antsemitism, accusations of which are used to shield Israel (and Germany’s support of Israel) from valid criticism. After all if they can claim they are fighting antisemitism instead of aiding a genocide, then the political optics are much better.