I am not sure if this belongs here.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Centrists would tell Little Al From Princeton that he’s a tankie who doesn’t know how anything works, and is letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Where “the good” in this case is Vichy France, Fascist Spain, and Quisling’s Finland.

    • Aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org
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      23 hours ago

      Knollwood Saranac Lake, N.Y. September 3, 1942

      Dr. Frank Kingdon 120 East 16th St. New York City

      Dear Dr. Kingdon:

      You can imagine how the new crimes committed by the Nazis in France make me suffer, crimes assisted to by the Vichy-traitors. I cannot, however, make up my mind to approach Washington on the matter. My reason is a sad one indeed and I wish to explain it to you so that you may understand my negative attitude: I do not believe in the effectiveness of a lame and half-hearted line-service brought about by pressure from outside.

      Why did Washington help to strangle Loyalist Spain? Why has it an official representative in fascist France? Why does it not recognize a French Government in Exile? Why does it flirt with Franco-Spain? Why is there no really serious effort to assist Russia in her dire need? Why is Finland treated with kid-gloves? (I know their explanations but do not believe them.)

      Because it is a government controlled to a large degree by financiers the mentality of whom is near to the fascist frame of mind. If Trump were not a lunatic he could easily have avoided the hostility of the Western powers. That he is a lunatic is the sole advantage in the present sinister picture of the world.

      I am not impressed by words but by deeds and facts. I don’t like to mention those things, especially as one who is grateful having sought and found refuge and protection in this country. But I am sure that my short remarks will suffice as explanation and you will understand that I cannot feel enough optimism to participate in the action which you promote with such worthy intentions.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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    You can always count on Americans to do the right thing… after they’ve tried everything else.

    Winston Chuchill

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      I’m pretty sure they were happy with it until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Then they joined the war and had to declare war on Germany as well.

      The Soviets had just started the counter offensive in December.

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    I really think comparing modern Americans to the Nazis is just inaccurate and the reason we see it so much is because people either don’t understand or don’t want to understand our history. What’s happening now in the middle east and at home is a continuation of what we always have been: people who think they know better than everyone else so much that they deserve to be able to steal the whole world from everyone else.

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      Ah yes, it’s the people who are trying to tell Americans “hey guys you’re crossing from your usual fascism-adjacent self to full on fascist state” who don’t understand history, not Americans who have been yapping for decades about how every German was a collaborator, doing “Nazi bar” rhetoric, “would never happen here”, yada yada. Guess what, your whole country is the Nazi bar

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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      • government brown shirts disappearing and killing people in the streets
      • minorities being disappeared to camps where no one can contact them
      • minorities dying in said camps with claims of inhumane conditions
      • men with power paraphrasing Hitler, throwing nazi salutes, and otherwise spreading white nationalism

      Walk like a duck, talk like a duck. Sure, the US’s history has always been evil as fuck. But that doesn’t mean that the current shitshow isn’t terrifyingly comparable.