• GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works
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    The closest thing to the natural order is feudal warlordism, which is violent enforcement for its own sake.

    Also, nothing is stopping you from starting a co-op, or a commune in a capitalist country, you are allowed to do it. If you tried to practice capitalism in a communist country, communism would be violently enforced upon you.

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      13 hours ago

      Someone hasn’t read Kropotkin’s Mutual Aid. That book absolutely tears this argument apart and argues that cooperation is actually natural and competition is not as important to humans.

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        What’s the lie? In general, throughout written history (and even before), humanity has been tribal and violent.

        The fact that we live in one of the most peaceful times in recorded history is a pretty damning statement on our past behavior.

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          The fact that a few violent psychopaths managed to subjugate large sections of society doesn’t make it anymore natural than claiming natural order of bovine is to live in a factory farm.

          It was right in front of you the whole time. All you had to do was start questioning the first lies you were told as a child and not to accept them as gospel.

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                Since you seem to be way more intelligent than me (it’s a miracle I managed to write this post comment, being illiterate). Could you explain the lie to me? Please be direct and use simple phrases, as if I were a 5 year old. Otherwise I might get lost in the full display of your intellect.