I’m so tired of the “AI bad” narrative on the left. SEIZE THE NEW MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND ACCELERATE.
Get rid of human labor, redistribute the fruits of automation to everyone so that we can be on a forever holiday with friends and family.
Yes, the current form of AI is not developed enough to accomplish this vision. Yes, billionaires getting to own it is bad. The problem however is not the technology itself and the advancement of that technology.
We The People (“Natural Persons”) invest our political authority in government. This is the fundamental tenet of “democracy”. Power flows from The People.
Government utilizes that authority to provide services to both natural and legal “persons” (“corporations” and similar legal entities.) The government utilizes the political authority of natural persons to collect taxes from natural and legal persons. They turn our political investment into an economic benefit.
We are owed an economic return on our investment. A Citizenship Dividend.
An equivalent model is more commonly proposed as “Universal Basic Income”, but that model is often maligned as charity, or a “wealth redistribution” measure. “Citizenship Dividend” more reasonably describes the mechanism. Regardless of need, every citizen - from the poorest beggar to the richest billionaire - should be paid an equal, monthly dividend for the use of the political powers they have invested in the government.
The source of these funds is taxation of every entity, natural or legal, that conducts business. The greater the level of automation within a particular company, the more business the company conducts, and the more taxes assessed. The richest will pay much more in taxes than they receive in dividends. The poorest will be those who attempt to survive solely on their Citizenship Dividends, without seeking additional work.
This the wrong /c/ to talk about taxes+capitalism.
I am asking @wraekscadu@vargar.org’s plans to redistribute the means of automation. His non answer🧵 already answered to us he will do nothing but enrich Nazis.
I didn’t provide an answer because the answer is highly obvious.
Let’s say the means of automation are seized by the public. Anyone can use it. You don’t have to be rich to benefit from the “fruits of automation”.
People can now innovate more. Public services can be a lot more efficient. High frequency, low capacity self driving buses running in remote communities could be possible. The public’s bus fares drop. If we get AI safe enough to engage in healthcare… well healthcare costs down (meaning lower taxes for us).
Basically, any service that requires human labor… doesn’t end up needing it anymore. Noone has to do boring soul sucking jobs anymore.
By “redistribute the fruits of automation”, I mean plans like UBI, more universal basic services and so on.
HOW‽ Nazis right now hold those means! The public doesn’t want to seize drones, datacenters, robots, because it currently is illegal!
I am in agreement with everything else regarding public property and distributing to us proles, but right now, all those means are benefitting Nazis. There‘s no automaton going to the proles and feeding us. That’s what I am asking how you distribute automation, when right now Nazis own the robots&drones.
I’m so tired of the “AI bad” narrative on the left. SEIZE THE NEW MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND ACCELERATE.
Get rid of human labor, redistribute the fruits of automation to everyone so that we can be on a forever holiday with friends and family.
Yes, the current form of AI is not developed enough to accomplish this vision. Yes, billionaires getting to own it is bad. The problem however is not the technology itself and the advancement of that technology.
Do LLM’s really count as means of production?
How exactly?
Citizenship Dividend.
We The People (“Natural Persons”) invest our political authority in government. This is the fundamental tenet of “democracy”. Power flows from The People.
Government utilizes that authority to provide services to both natural and legal “persons” (“corporations” and similar legal entities.) The government utilizes the political authority of natural persons to collect taxes from natural and legal persons. They turn our political investment into an economic benefit.
We are owed an economic return on our investment. A Citizenship Dividend.
An equivalent model is more commonly proposed as “Universal Basic Income”, but that model is often maligned as charity, or a “wealth redistribution” measure. “Citizenship Dividend” more reasonably describes the mechanism. Regardless of need, every citizen - from the poorest beggar to the richest billionaire - should be paid an equal, monthly dividend for the use of the political powers they have invested in the government.
The source of these funds is taxation of every entity, natural or legal, that conducts business. The greater the level of automation within a particular company, the more business the company conducts, and the more taxes assessed. The richest will pay much more in taxes than they receive in dividends. The poorest will be those who attempt to survive solely on their Citizenship Dividends, without seeking additional work.
This the wrong /c/ to talk about taxes+capitalism. I am asking @wraekscadu@vargar.org’s plans to redistribute the means of automation. His non answer🧵 already answered to us he will do nothing but enrich Nazis.
I didn’t provide an answer because the answer is highly obvious.
Let’s say the means of automation are seized by the public. Anyone can use it. You don’t have to be rich to benefit from the “fruits of automation”.
People can now innovate more. Public services can be a lot more efficient. High frequency, low capacity self driving buses running in remote communities could be possible. The public’s bus fares drop. If we get AI safe enough to engage in healthcare… well healthcare costs down (meaning lower taxes for us).
Basically, any service that requires human labor… doesn’t end up needing it anymore. Noone has to do boring soul sucking jobs anymore.
By “redistribute the fruits of automation”, I mean plans like UBI, more universal basic services and so on.
If it was
It wouldn’t be asked.
HOW‽ Nazis right now hold those means! The public doesn’t want to seize drones, datacenters, robots, because it currently is illegal!
I am in agreement with everything else regarding public property and distributing to us proles, but right now, all those means are benefitting Nazis. There‘s no automaton going to the proles and feeding us. That’s what I am asking how you distribute automation, when right now Nazis own the robots&drones.