Three wolves and six goats are discussing what to have for dinner. One courageous goat makes an impassioned case: “We should put it to a vote!” The other goats fear for his life, but surprisingly, the wolves acquiesce. But when everyone is preparing to vote, the wolves take three of the goats aside. “Vote with us to make the other three goats dinner,” they threaten. “Otherwise, vote or no vote, we’ll eat you.” The other three goats are shocked by the outcome of the election: a majority, including their comrades, has voted for them to be killed and eaten. They protest in outrage and terror, but the goat who first suggested the vote rebukes them: “Just be thankful this is a democracy! At least we got to have a say!”

-Crimethinc

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    I don’t get this false dichotomy, the sheep can both vote and do organized self-defense.

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      Don’t you think the goats made a mistake granting legitimacy to a process that would see their own demise? They had a say, after all. For them to organize defense would be to violate the law, which, after all, they participated in creating.

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      The analogy also isn’t accurate with the hidden threat. It’d be closer if the wolves convinced the three sheep that they could wear wolf clothing and be part of the pack if they vote with them.

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        14 hours ago

        Why not use the little power you’re given? I’d rather live in a country with a center-left president than in one with a Hitler wannabe.

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          Because liberal democracy enables fascism. Capitalism condes nationalism as legitimization. When the people emiserate, they look for a reason outside of the nation as culprits instead of focusing on class.

          You’re not enacting power, you accept that the only input you have on a system can be conveyed with a simple X.

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            You’re not enacting power, you accept that the only input you have on a system can be conveyed with a simple X.

            You can do multiple things, you know. Voting doesn’t bar you from burning down a missile factory or something.

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              It conveys the message that you actually had a say in politics.

              Voting doesn’t bar you from burning down a missile factory or something.

              Neither does drilling a hole into your knee and pouring warm milk through it.

              Vote if you want. But don’t act as if it actually solves anything.

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                Neither does drilling a hole into your knee and pouring warm milk through it.

                It does, you’ll have a hard time walking.

                Do you genuinely think all politicians are the same and that it doesn’t matter if you vote?

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                  It does, you’ll have a hard time walking.

                  Way to go taking a joke literally.

                  Do you genuinely think all politicians are the same

                  No. But their degrees of freedom are limited by the way the system is set up.

                  and that it doesn’t matter if you vote?

                  Yes. Btw: remember rule 6 and 7.

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                    remember rule 6 and 7.

                    Oh, I see. I know what anarchism is. As for the 7th rule, alright then.