I will be upfront with this, and say that I’ve never been a huge fan. But I did reinstall a Matrix server, and some clients to see if it’d gotten better in the year or so since I’ve last used it.
This just… Kind of feels like a more centralized XMPP with group chat folders that sort of function? The spaces feature is neat, but I’ve tried 4-5 clients, and every single one of those throws all of them into the same screen as the DMs by default, and I can’t find a way to change that.
Am I missing something here? Like. I want to at least see what people like here, I just can’t.
Omg I love this thread and this post. Sometimes I feel like everyone is crazy when they suggest alternative software.
People will be like “hey the best burger place in town closed can anyone recommend an alternative?”
And then a bunch of farmers show up like “yeah dude buy this calf and then just raise it real quick and also plant some trees to get wood for your smoker, you have a smoker right? Anyways yeah it’s so easy bro I don’t even know why anyone buys corporate burgers tbh.”
And you say “hmmm okay sounds like a lot of work but I guess I can try it?”
And you try it and it’s the shittiest blandest burger and it doesn’t even have any sauce or lettuce or tomatoes because fuck you those things are for corporate burgers and if you want to complain why don’t you open up a tomato branch and start contributing tomatoes then and waaah waaah why won’t the stupid normies eat my shitty burger that takes 6 months to make and doesn’t have ketchup waaaaah it must be because everyone is dumb and lazy
Can someone recommend some XMPP clients for Mobile/Desktop. The internet is littered with XMPP clients that look like this:

I use Cheogram on mobile, and on desktop I use Dino. I’ve also used Conversations on mobile, which is what Cheogram is a fork of. Cheogram has some extra features I wanted. Also Movim, but on mobile I’ve found the general consistency to be… Bad
Man I wish I had friends to talk to using xmpp or even matrix. Where I live people have hard time using telegram over whatsapp…I hate that I’m forced to use it to talk to people.
I just at some point got tired of it and kinda just told everyone “I have an XMPP account, a signal account, a phone number, and an email address. You can use any of those to get in contact with me.” and they all picked one. Nobody picked email though xD
I struggle with that…I’m not very popular and I’m afraid nobody will ever talk to me if I ask them to just use a different app. I’m in one group chat from my old army buddies and we barely chat…
That’s part of why I still gave phone numbers and emails, despite both not being secure in any capacity; most people do have them, even if they’re not their preferred methods of communication.
I did lose a couple of people, but they were the ones I caught up with like… Once a year, anyway. Not that I didn’t value them as friends, but there comes a point where it’s like… I’m not missing a whole lot without you here, y’know. And it’s not like I had that many friends, either, I only have a handful of people I talk to regularly. Maybe 15-20 a month if we’re including friends of people I know who I see in passing?
The spaces feature is neat, but I’ve tried 4-5 clients, and every single one of those throws all of them into the same screen as the DMs by default, and I can’t find a way to change that.
“show all rooms” is how you turn that off in element

Nheko also supports spaces and has a filter to only show DMs, it also allows tagging rooms to do custom grouping of chats. But at the moment only element properly embeds calls with the new element-call system.

I find Matrix to be completely unintuitive. I could probably get to a point where I understood it, but the whole point (currently more than ever) is to get off Discord. That means convincing my normie friends, and ye. There’s just no fucking way
This. I’m not judging the program based on if I can use it. I need to get my non tech savvy friends onto it as well and this is where so many alternatives fail the litmus test
Ignoring the missing features, is stoat a better experience for non-techies coming from discord?
yes, but it doesn’t have Al features
EDIT: Funny typo. Al->all
That’s a good thing
was a funny typo. I meant to write “all” not “Al”






