• btbt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    The excuses some of y’all come up with for not doing anything never cease to amaze me, do you really think you can bring about revolutionary political change by just asking nicely? If actual anarchists were like you the ideology of anarchism would rightfully be taken about as seriously as Posadism

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      3 months ago

      You dont even know what I do locally and now we’re all making uneducated guesses cause I wanted to make a joke about centralized power structures. Chill.

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        3 months ago

        Local work is good and commendable, but wider societal change requires centralized leadership and the use of force to counter the violence which the capitalist class will engage in to protect its existence both during and after any revolution

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          3 months ago

          Anarchist cells operating simulteanously can accomplish the same thing without relying on a single point of failure or granting a figurehead to attack.

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                  3 months ago

                  They were still sustainable. The same thing is going to happen to any startup anarchist collective as nations and corporations hold an ungodly amount of power and material wealth. It was destroyed because it was actually working but couldn’t defend itself completely from a nation. That is a flaw but its one any up and coming revolution starts with.

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                    3 months ago

                    The same thing is going to happen to any startup anarchist collective as nations and corporations hold an ungodly amount of power and material wealth

                    And therein lies the problem. I’m not questioning that it was sustainable, but without centralized leadership and the use of force to protect itself, any anarchist cell is going to lose to the much more organized and better equipped capitalist forces aiming to disrupt and overturn them. Anarchist projects cannot be successful while capitalists continue to wield power.