It actually helps the discussion if I can understand your point, you might want to add a verb in your first part, I say this as a non english speaker so bear with me.

My data points are public info, I pointed you to where to find them, rtfg.

The reason this person is getting downvoted with no answer to their good points is an indicator as to why the subject is sensible.

Someone (admittably an asshole) found how to solve a problem, wrote a suite that does a very good job where the alternatives were absolute crap, and all major distros started using it.

Everybody is free to write another alternative, but everybody that is capable knows that systemd is probably better than whatever they could make, so that is what almost everybody is using.

Usage and contributions data on debian and rhel, the vast majority uses systemd and does not complain about it.

Edit: since you probably don’t care about people actually working with linux, a further datapoint is the steam hardware survey.

People don’t care about this beacuse they will make it so that if you don’t ask questions it just works.

In the meantime those of us that need to work in these jurisdictions need to comply with the bullshit so we hope to be able to continue to work with linux, but if that won’t be possible we will be forced to write software for microsoft or whatever else in the apple crap.

That is why there will be forks for the hobbyists, but for those that need to actually use a computer to make a living, compliance was always the only creal choice.

And as usual some asshole will come with the usual nazi comparison with compliance, like they did in the other seven posts were the subject was discussed. These people can risk their own family but the way they write, they probably aren’t even responsible for themselves

All used profusely by hobbysts and evangelists, the kind of people with a lot of spare time to write bullshit online, and never ran more than 5 machines for more than a year with evolving operational requirements.

I can add the two files required to run a timer in systemd in a couple minutes, but writing the complex incantation to cron for having it do something that is the default in systemd is pure pain and takes me 3 hours of googling

Debian for work and my home machines that I don’t need to be the latest and greatest (nas, media centee).

Arch on personal, éess implrtant machines

And remembering to back up the history, ask me how I know

Why does your question sound like you are prompting an LLM? I sincerily hope we are not transitioning to communicating like this, because if I have to read stuff like this once again I think I will have to get offline indefinitly.

To answer your question only Nostradamus can chew whatever you are asking mate, I think that thinking about what computer produced in two years you should buy in 4 years might be a cool video idea for an upcoming youtube channel, but absolutely useless for anything practical today.

I mean, the ease of use is to be able to choose to reboot IMO. As you say: there is no drawback, just fukken reboot if you don’t have to keep running.

I have to keep my machines running, so you do you, I do I, but if you want to force me to reboot we gonna have issues agreeing mate.

Edit: also, i think linux is not for everyone, i agree that removing choice to allow for braindead usage is a viable policy in other OSs, so putting off people is a feature, not a bug IMO

We don’t babysit users here, I want to never be forced to do anything, nor is sleep a problem on all machines after update.

There already are OSs that remove control from the user and they are not called linux. We do things differently here and that is why it is not for anyone. It might sound elitistic, but it actually is not. There are good reasons to allow choice to the user, because some users need that power. Others don’t and prefer ignorance.

You might be a server that only can reboot at a given time to respect service level agreements with your customers

Yes, i heard it is not good to force

Under linux you have the option to not reboot after an update, use that power wisely.

You did not, so you took a risk and lost.

Why does this headline read like an overstated CV achievement?

All these timers can be tweaked in the systemd confog file. In my lightweight testing VMs for example I set the kill after term to 3 seconds, instead of the default minute and a half.

Cool name for a band

I think the grandparent was being sarchastic mate

Edit: at least I hope

For some people the world is black and white, I think that law is considered bad by everyone, but for some people complaying to state regulation is a crime against humanity itself.

It is either puppies or genocide, no in-between, so adding two lines of code for json support of an age field in a systemd module warrants you to be publicly shamed, called names and probably harrassed irl.

The guy probably just wanted to be able to continue using linux at work, and without that crap he will have to go back to windows

Then i sure hope linux will not be illegal in my country too