• InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    In fairness, the party opposes primary challengers from the left

    True, but that doesn’t mean we should roll over because there is opposition. We should keep trying to primary. And we should build out as much of an independent party as we can.

    It is our movement. We are the ones building it. And we should have done more of this decades ago.

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      2 days ago

      True, but that doesn’t mean we should roll over because there is opposition.

      It also doesn’t mean there’s been a lack of trying.

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        2 days ago

        Sure, but our modern fellow lefties do discourage trying.

        For example in this thread @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social was asking why we no longer have a black panther party all while telling me all the reasons why they are not interested in showing up to vote.

        Engaging in elections is still one way we can engage in the public space and start to make some changes in a favorable direction. We can’t keep wondering why electoralism is not in our favor if we are also not even trying.

        Like i said in the other side of the thread; if you can get your supporters to show up and vote you have credibility to mobilize for other things.

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            1 day ago

            look at what fascists are doing this election too.

            And your take is to just step out of their way? Strange resistance, but lmk how that works out for your company captain.

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                1 day ago

                You could be demolishing fash companies too

                We should be doing lots of things and can do more than one thing at a time.

                but I am sure a lobbyist like you knows more on how to be effective in fascist states.

                This implys you don’t look to be effective in your actions.

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                    1 day ago

                    Because your government keeps killing us?

                    And your actions are to disengage?

                    Like I have said. I agree with you on taking down the camps that are being used to hold immigrants, but I am doubtful that people with your mindset are even going to show up. If you cannot be bothered to organize and fill out a paper every so often its not credible that you will be putting much in a more direct form of resistance. I really just don’t see how you will have more courage in a battle of blair mountain type scenario if you are this afraid of filling out a paper.

                    Elections are still one front in the class war and it is foolish of us to ignore it.

                    I have elaborated about as much as I care to for a social media post. Now I am assuming you are interested in seeing real change. If I am right it would be in your interest to have a real dialog with your allies about a course of action (I will note that you have neglected to provide one). Until then I don’t think lefties like you are serious about things.