cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63691775
Posted this in Fediverse Memes but got deleted for some reason, can’t imagine why.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63691775
Posted this in Fediverse Memes but got deleted for some reason, can’t imagine why.
At this point I wish you’d go ahead and defederate, if that makes these idiotic discussions stop.
I’m actually offended by being called a supporter of the Israeli government just because feddit is my home instance.
I’m also pretty sure that feddit-bashing won’t improve the life of a single Palestinian one bit.
The discontent is directed at the admin team which is incessantly equating criticism to Israel as antisemitism.
We should always fight conflation between antisemitism and anti-zionism, the favorite tool of zionists to dissimulate their heinous acts in Palestine, Syria and Lebanon.
You can criticize Israel on feddit, most of its users do.
Calling for the destruction of Israel isn’t criticism. Same as writing “Death to America” wouldn’t be criticism of the Trump administration.
And if you react to a comment removal by telling the mods to kill themselves or calling them Nazis, you’d get booted off any instance regardless of what the comment was about.
Do you think the State of Israel will improve or something? The only acceptable improvement is the dissolution of the Israeli State. Anything less is only pulling the knife out 6 inches.
Israel was founded 75 years ago as an explicitly settler-colonialist ethnostate project on the existing land of Palestine. This was wrong and unacceptable then and it continues to be so. The state of Israel should not exist. Death to Israel.
Criticism is something where the other side can say “you’re right, I’ll stop that and do better”.
“Israel shouldn’t exist” isn’t criticism, the Israelis currently living there can’t just stop existing.
Did the people in the GDR vanish when the GDR didn’t exist anymore? No, they didn’t. So fuck off with this BS.
Why are you Kraut fuckers always so intent on conflating a population with a nation-state? Literal blood-and-soil nationalism. Dismantling Israel doesn’t necessarily have to mean the cessation of existence for all its current citizens, and it’s intellectually dishonest not to acknowledge that fact in this conversation.
Being charitable, I wonder if there is a language barrier thing happening here. I’m by no means fluent in German, but as far as I can tell, words like “death” and “dead” are far more versatile and used metaphorically far more often in English than in German.
I’m german, there is no language barrier. The cultural barrier is that my countrypeople can’t separate between a nation and it’s citizens.
The fact that they can’t think of another way to get rid of settlers, when they launched a genocidal settlement campaign not even 100 years ago across poland and had to be “resettled” west of the Oder after they lost, speaks to how much they actually learned from their past.
I think they just like to always assume the worst in order to justify their own overly broad definition of antsemitism, accusations of which are used to shield Israel (and Germany’s support of Israel) from valid criticism. After all if they can claim they are fighting antisemitism instead of aiding a genocide, then the political optics are much better.